Stadium traffic and parking

[Tom]

Is it a good idea to allow the town and maybe residents to charge for parking for stadium events?

[Unregistered]

Yes, absolutely.

Residents who are most inconvenienced by the stadium should be able to charge for parking on their own property. If the town wants to apply some sort of regulation over it, charge $10 for a yearly permit and be done with it.

[sdobar]

I'm in support of having the town charge for parking at Boyden and the Pool, but the local residents should also be allowed to cash in on stadium events by charging for parking in their own driveways without being charged themselves by the town.
South Walpole residents already have dozens of consequences for happening to live near the stadium - we should at least give them the power to charge for parking on their properties.
This is definitely a source of income for the town - we should put it on the Spring Town Meeting agenda right away.

[Unregistered]

it sounds like a potential can of worms......but ideas regarding new sources of revenue should be considered.


walpole should capitalize on patriots fans...and any fan of a show at that venue...after all, we get to hear (and see, and feel) a lot of what goes on at Gillette Stadium.


the raven

[Unregistered]

Yes, park at Boyden and the Pool. I would, however, give a lot of consideration to CLOSE residents of those locations. If they have valid concerns against the idea, they should be considered.

It should be parking only. Pull in, lock your car, and leave. NO TAILGATING, grilles, drinking, etc. allowed. We don't want to have to police that.

I am assuming the town already has liability insurance for public areas.

[Rent Everything]

This is a fantastic idea.

Let's knock down the fence to the ballfield and really make some cash parking cars there! We can set up concession stands and sell drinks and hot dogs and beer.

We could also market parking at the high school and OPR so people could meet their friends, tailgate and only take one car to the game.

I heard the carnival is looking for a larger area- and stock car racing is looking for a site--- Adams Farm comes to mind.

Let's jump on this while we can.

[Unregistered]

The selectman said there would be no tailgating which is a big part of football fan enjoyment....concession stands for fundraisers??

Porta potties...???

Trash detail....????

Fundraiser...??

Police...detail..??

Senior van runs the patrons close to the stadium ...??

Think out all the + as well as - and place it on this page for serious consideration
Sure beats the hell out of a power plant

[Unregistered]

Am I missing something? What has changed since the town decided to enforce the zoning bylaws due to numerous problems associated with game days? If anything there is more congestion in the area now with more cars using Washington Street as an alternate route to/from the stadium and more pedestrians being dropped of and walking through the neighborhood. (The man off of Winter Street comes to mind with his ongoing battles with people cutting through his property) And we now want to promote more people to use the area on game days????
I'm sure the neighbors of Boyden and the pool would be thrilled to deal with the parking lot emptying at 1AM after a Monday night game. Curious if Mr. Timpson has ever seen the condition of the parking lots on a Tuesday morning after one of these games. Or has he factored into his calculation cleanup crews (they should be done by 2AM or so) and/or police details?
When looking for revenue sources for the town, do we conveniently forget about the quality of life considerations of the residents impacted? Again I ask what has changed?

[Unregistered]

I did not watch the Selectman meeting. Were the revenue projections explained as I am having trouble coming close to the $80,000 estimate. Any help would be appreciated.
$80,000/10 games = $8,000/game
$8,000/$20 parking fee (assumes no tailgating and 1+ mile walk) = 400 spaces
If I had to guess the number of parking spaces at Boyden and pool = 100, 125 tops.
Or will we be using the ballfield for parking? Conditions of fields in our town has never been an issue, has it? Boyden is approaching Stone field as the worst playing field in town. I can only image what a downpour on a November Sunday would do, or a snowstorm in January. Plowing the field in January should not harm it, should it?
I assume any revenue from private permits would be offset by detail expenses, parking attendent(s), plowing and additonal lighting required etc.
For the life of me I can't come close to the $80,000 number.

[Unregistered]

How about huge parking lots at Adams Farm and Sunny Rock Farm and shuttle buses to the stadium. We could raise more revenue by charging for rides on the shuttle.

[Unregistered]

Even more revenue could be raised by having the Boyden students arrive an hour early the mornings after games to pick up empty bottles and cans from the parking lot and playground. Those 5 cent deposits could really add up. I'm sure the kids will know enough to leave the broken bottles. They're not worth anything.

[Unregistered]

Sounds like a great idea. There is plenty of traffic roaring down Washington Street every gameday. Why not capture some of that revenue? Some thoughts: Other than local (i.e. Walpole residents) traffic, all post game exits should flow out to Route 1, thereby lessening the noise and disturbance to neighbors. Police detail would be necessary, but how much more expense would there be for portapotties and plowing/cleanup? A peek at this year's schedule shows only a couple of night games, most are Sunday afternoons. Perhaps a one year trial by the selectmen? At least it is a proposal that is adding to the town's coffers, and at limited nuisance to the balance of the town.





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[Unregistered]

These are all good suggestions but we need to do more to raise revenue from town owned resources.

How about:

o Camping in the Town Forrest and Adams Farm. The RV's would need to supply their own power and sanitary facilities.

o Flea markets at Adams Farm front lot

o Car shows at the High School- Summer only

o Rodeos , carnivals and the circus- can be several places.

Some of the folks in town could become temporary workers at these events to provide additional money.

[Unregistered]

Thanks #13, great input! If there is nothing wrong for a homeowner to park 20 cars in his backyard 10 Sundays a year to bring in $4000/gross, why shouldn't the town explore the possibility?

[Unregistered]

Let's grab at this chance during Patriots events......it's a winner for all the residents and the town to capitalize on this idea of getting involved with parking. Maybe if things go right and the town keeps and open mind on additional events in town that more ideas and revenue could be generated to offset the PROPERTY TAXES that we all pay in this town. I am a season ticket holder for the Pats games and we need to take advantage of any revenue generated whether it is from the local residents and from town property.....it has been long enough now that only Foxboro capitalizes on these events and not surrounding towns. I've talked to many residents in South Walpole particually along the corner of Washington St. (Boyden School) and Water St. leading to Route 1 and these people are fairly new homeowners in the past 10 years and extremely are open minded. Since the newly built Stadium has been built, these residents want to very much capitalize on a simple.....yes simple idea to make some money to at least offset their taxes. The homeowners enjoy and love this football team as most of us do and we should support them as much as we can......as i see it and have gotten feedback from them is that there really is not any problems with the current fans that do park in that area so they don't get tied up on route 1 traffic and really do appreciate it when they can leave without the hassle of getting stuck on route 1 for 2-3 hours at a slow pace. The traffic after a game flows very well from the Country Store/McDonalds through Water St. to Washington St. and i believe at the route 1 intersection is blocked off from any traffic coming from the Stadium which makes the relief of traffic easier. Also, the parking from residents and school actually relieves the current traffic already there of anyone trying to take a shortcut along Water St. to route 1. Simply stated....the traffic is already there so why not take advantage of it and have some police on detail and have some of it paid through private residential lots based on the number of parking spots filed for parking permits issued only to homeowners within a certain distance to the stadium on a yearly basis. As the residents abide by the rules.....then keep allowing those individuals to continue to park the cars year by year !!!!

[sdobar]

The initial proposal made by Selectman Timson was to open Boyden School and the South Pool for parking at stadium events, therefore rezoning and allowing residents to charge for parking on their own properties.
A few of the posters on this forum clearly are not presenting realistic ideas. Selling beer?!? Opening Adams Farm for parking?!? Using the town bus as a shuttle bus?!? The Selectmen (and the taxpayers of Walpole) would, most likely (although I may be wrong), not approve of these ideas.
The original proposal to open Boyden for parking is great - let's stick to that proposal.

[Unregistered]

Response to SDOBAR. So let's stick with Boyden. Now factor in liability damages on Town property if someone were to get hurt. How about police detail? How about litter and whos' oing to clean it up? How about people urinating? If you want to stick with Boyden, then I say let's stick with the current zoning that prohibits any form of event parking period.

[Unregistered]

Is the proposal so outlandish that townsfolk deem it not worth researching? Can we assume the plan would involve acceptable trash pickup, public toilets, and policing? If it still would be adding to the town's revenues, then what is the problem? Seems like it only makes common sense.

[Unregistered]

It appears the town needs money and these are solid ways to raise funds.

There is a lot of under utilized sites in town and these can be money makers.

We need to think out of the box.

[Unregistered]

While I am all for the town making extra money, I have to ask what will be done to ensure the saftey of the residents of Washington Street? The cars that will be parking in those lots will be driving down Washington Street and there is a large section of the road that does not have sidewalks. Traffic is already heavy, adding additional parking will only make it worse. The road is becoming too dangerous for people to walk to the end of their driveways to get the mail or for local residents to walk or bikeride.

[Unregistered]

For a very long time, several of us in S. walpole w/ large wooded , well hidden lots continued the practice of allowing people to park on our property for stadium events. Yeah, some people charged, I got alot of great gift certiicates to places like Luciano's and free beer, I never charged. This practice was brought to a halt when the guy on Summer St. insisted that Kraft put a 12' fence on the Walpole side of the lots. Kraft had no intention of a fence, I wish something different had occurred like having the Walpole police stop by and check in with the guy on major game days

[Unregistered]

Will you people grow up? The sarcasm is killing me.

Finally, someone comes up with an idea that at least merits further discussion, and the NIMBY,soccer mom, townie rank & file start firing
off the non-constructive barbs.

So what - you live near the stadium. 8 out of 10 of you bought your homes AFTER the stadium was constructed in the 70's. Don't act as if you didn't expect crowds and rowdies every Sunday.

I live near the center of town, I'll trade my headaches for yours in a heartbeat. I will however give you this: You ought to be able to sell parking in your own driveway (with a permit fee paid to the town to do so)


As long as the "no taligating rule is in effect" this seems like a good idea. I suspect there will be some costs associated with this that we are not thinking about (shuttle buses, police detail to prevent tailgating), but i would say 25 - 30 bucks a car is fair price to ask. Kraft gets $40 now, and it's probably going up to $50 this season) The advantage of parking at Boyden is not tailgating. It's beating the traffic after a game - that's worth 25 bucks to plenty of folks.

Maybe even forget the shuttle bus altogether and charge 30$. People pay $45 to park at the Lafayette House and WALK to the stadium. Same distance.

How about this in addition to the boyden idea. What about a shuttle service from Walpole Center to the stadium from the already existing down town train station parking lot. Could bring in some strong Sunday business to the local businesses pre & post game.

Fans could take the train to Walpole and a shuttle to Gillette.

[Unregistered]

What about a shuttle service from Walpole Center to the stadium from the already existing down town train station parking lot. Could bring in some strong Sunday business to the local businesses pre & post game.

Fans could take the train to Walpole and a shuttle to Gillette.

That's an interesting idea. I can see where the local pubs (Becketts, Finnegan's, TTs, and the Paddock) would see an increase in business (along with the cops afterwards, perhaps), but also the restaurants like Jalapeno's. Even the convenience stores should see an increase in business. Not a bad idea. I would expect that local businesses would have to pay into a fund to offset the costs of the shuttle and the additional police presence downtown. In fact, let the businesses set up the shuttle on their own.

Does the Gillette train stop at Walpole train station? If there was just a bit more parking there, it might also be a viable alternative.

[Unregistered]

The idea of Walpole being a hub for Patriots fans after a game sounds like a disaster!

Booze-fueled fans running around the town center after a game? Especially if they win?

Are you all suffering from jock-itch again? Please! Scratch that, will you!

[Unregistered]

I don't think stadium parking is going to net $80,000 and it will cause more headaches than it's worth. The town did away with stadium parking years ago because it was a public safety and neighborhood nightmare.

[Unregistered]

Fantastic idea !!

[Unregistered]

You poeple want it both ways.

Face it folks - this is not a bedroom community. Every time someone wants to increase business in this town, people like yourselves cut it down.

There would be no tailgating allowed at Boyden, so the clean up would be minimal and easily paid for with the revenue from the parking.

I suggested the downtown idea because the downtown business need business to stay alive, and we need the business to stay alive to keep the town alive.

Between Boyden and a downtown shuttle, you could be looking at a 100 - 150k a year (after paying for police and clean up.) untold dollars for local restaraunts per year.

I think that offsets the once a week rowdies - which is only speculation anyway.

Hey, I love the town too. I'm just sick of paying more taxes for less service because we have no commercial tax bas, and a puritan approach to change.

This should be the perfect solution to both of our concerns. We get more money, and we only deal with the headaches once a week. They come, they spend, they leave.

[Unregistered]

I'd hate for kids to find beers or empty coolers around because clean-up was not adequate.

This would bother me the most. Kids at Boyden already have to put up with the chaos coming in from the Preserve, I'd hate for them to have to start their day with urine soaked grounds and beer cans littered around the parking lot.

Is it worth it , though, to try it out?

[Unregistered]

It looks like the BOS is seriously considering this plan. South Walpole be damned.

Police officers will be a prime beneficiary of added overtime-details.

We should also include Old Post Road and the High School as folks could park, meet their friends and car pool to Gillette.

[Unregistered]

Not all Patriot fans are drunks. Many fathers and mothers enjoy taking their children to the games. I know - I have been there! They enjoy watching the Patriots play football and go home after the games and get ready for school and work the next day. The hardcore drinkers probably will stick to the other lots and not have an interest in parking at a school where they know it is illegal to drink.

PATS FAN and a mom.

[Unregistered]

Lets get some excitement for once in this boring town of walpole and generate some excessive revenue at the cost of outside fans that love this football team as we do....listen folks any idea is a goooood idea especially to give the town homeowners some relief or a " TAXXXX BREAK " or even some extra services to the town folks as long as the South Walpole residents especially from Boyden School to Water St. to RT 1 are also definetely able to capitalize on this idea since they have to be involved with the fans anyway....and anything that goes in effect " CAN BE REGULATED " at a minimal cost !! The parkng permits that will be filed can be in effect year to year as long as everyone is doing what they are suppose to do to make things safe.

"WAKE UP FOLKS" Come on people where is your enthusiasm to support the Pat fans who have been using Washington St. and Water St. for years to bypass traffic on route 1.......We all would do it too !!

ALSO SOME FANS ONLY PARK IN THAT AREA OF S.WALPOLE USUALLY WITHIN 2 HOURS OF THE GAME BECAUSE TRAFFIC COMES TO A SLOWDOWN AT ROUTE 1 AND DO NOT HAVE TIME TO STICK AROUND AND BARBECUE ! BUT THE TOWN CAN ALWAYS REGULATE THIS EVEN THE PARKING ON THE GRASS AREA AT BOYDEN SCHOOL DURING RAINY DAYS.....COME ON LETS HAVE COMMON SENSE THIS IS THE TIME WITH THE NEW STADIUM !!!!

[Unregistered]

Why are the Selectman wasting any time on a proposal that will net no real money? Perhaps it would be better to have PATs fans park in the Selectman's driveways who think that offering parking at Boyden school is a good idea, and have the the Selectmen drive the crazy fans on a shuttle bus to the game. The Selectmen would then get to see what fun the fans are,and maybe one or two of them would use the Selecman's yard as a bathroom. Maybe then the Selectman would be able to get a sense of what fun the folks in South Walpole have every game day with all of the traffic and fans who have had a six pack or two before the game and then relieve themselves in someone's bushes. Yet again this shows the lack of clear thinking that this current board displays time after time.

[Unregistered]

If they allowed parking at the Boyden school we might even be able to witness the DPW doing some work they could handle, cleaning up afterwards. They only seem to destroy anything else they touch. Every summer they make a mess of my corner lot because they have zero landscaping skills. Trees and rose bushes are destroyed by whatever machine they barrel through the area with. I've called them about this problem, but they just don't get the hint. Mow the grass on the other side of the sidewalk. It's about all they can handle.
I think the students at the Aggie that do have landscaping skills would do a better job for less pay.

[Unregistered]

As was stated two months ago (see #8), the numbers don't add up. It would have taken very little legwork to come up with a good estimate of revenue. Drive to Boyden, count the spaces. Drop by lots 1+ miles away from the stadium and ask what they charge. But no, the $80,000 number is throw out there with pie in the sky assumptions.
So here we are two months later and they have town employees (your tax dollars) do the legwork and voila... the result is breakeven, at best!
You would assume end of story, but no, lets continue to use unreasonable numbers (extra spaces that do not exist and $40 fees) which still don't come close to the revenue generated by the commercial plan highlighted.
When will they learn to do some homework in advance and stop pursuing issues which have reached a dead end.

[Unregistered]

- Good idea to investigate Boyden parking as a potential revenue source.
- Unfortunate decision to use town employee's time to perform what should have been a simple "back of the envelope" calculation.
- Bad idea to continue pursuit of the proposal when the numbers just don't add up.

[Unregistered]

Since the town is hell bent on both adding fields as well as paid stadium parking...my idea saves the $35,000 soon to be spent on a "fields Study "...places new field(s) at the water tower site which could have a gravel parking lot developed for 200 cars under controlled situation.
This is a WIN WIN WIN

[Unregistered]

After driving by Gillette Stadium the other day, it seems many on-site parking spots are now lost to the construction sites. Walpole should sieze the opportunity by creating offsite parking that would bring in much-needed town revenue. Maybe parking at the train station with bus service?

[Unregistered]

The train already stops at Gillette Stadium. Why would anyone get off in Walpole and take a shuttle? There ain't gonna be much revenue from this idea. File under - Shelved.

[Unregistered]

Because, trains to Walpole run more regularly, fans could either take the train to Walpole, roam in to town to dine at local establishments, then take the bus to Gillette, or DRIVE to the train parking lot, again, enjoy the local restaurants, take a quick bus to the football game, and beat the congestion after the game. Is that a thought? Certainly the local law enforcement officials could identify and hustle through the Walpole Express bus to the stadium.

[Unregistered from Walpole]

If we sold a season pass to Walpole residents only, for parking only at a site that each of us already pays tax on and has a vested interest in,then the Walpole/ Patriots fans could escape traffic, moniter their own lots and socialize with other like minded residents.The price of parking should be at a value, perhaps 25.00.
150 spaces, 2 preseason games,8 regular season games, generally 1 post season game.paid upfront to gross $41,250 at a minimum.
Costs associated with that would be reasonable, include porta potties, detail cops, gabage removal and plowing, and we could still net about $35,000. This money would all be upfront, and the spots would most likely sell out in a hurry.
I have as much civic pride as the next Walpole resident and I feel that the self policing of the lot is a reasonable and considerate method of pacifing both sides of the debate. If it doesn't work, we only have ourselves to blame,but we tried and we have 35,000 to show for it. If it does work and prices go up over time, then in 10 years we,ve made about 500,000 for the town. With my daughters class size crisis this summer and the need for extra teachers in the elemetary schools,I would enjoy visiting the option of prepaid parking at Boyden.
Go Pats!!! Go Walpole!!!

[Unregistered]

Boyden doesn't have 150 spaces. There's about 100 spaces. and the cost of porta potties, police detail, garbage removal, and snow removal will be more than $7,000.

[Unregistered]

Does anyone know what the plan is to accomodate local residents just trying to get home, with these new restrictions? Thanks.

[Unregistered]

I think we should do it and why not. We need to remove the snow anyways so is that really an additional cost?. Games usually end in December/early January not effected by too many snow storms. There are only 8 games, if they do not make the play offs and maybe 2 big concerts that would need extra parking. I think we should try it out for one year and if it does not work, then not do it for the following year. Also, I forgot what event was at the stadium but there were quite a few cars parked at Boyden anyway. I know they were not suppose to park there but they were doing it anyways. If there is parking we should strictly prohibit grills. Also, maybe do it in conjunction with someones fundraising. Senior Center 1 week, Girls Hockey team the following week etc. Another idea is let Boyden Parents/School run it and let it be there way to raise money for the school for extra projects etc. I would eliminate parking for night games, that would be too crazy, I think. I would imagine you would need a police detail at night do to liability issues.

[Unregistered]

I as a resident of Walpole am in favor of parking at Boyden as soon as the town approves campsites at Adams Farm.

Think of it, camping in the pristine environmentspread among the many acres. Communing with nature.

We could charge based on renting to tent sites or RV's by the day, week, or month.

Start a nature program for urban residents to come and experience Adams Farm.

Of course residents would get a discounted rate.

[Unregistered]

These are all good suggestions but we need to do more to raise revenue from town owned resources.

How about:

o Camping in the Town Forrest and Adams Farm. The RV's would need to supply their own power and sanitary facilities.

o Flea markets at Adams Farm front lot

o Car shows at the High School- Summer only

o Rodeos , carnivals and the circus- can be several places.

Some of the folks in town could become temporary workers at these events to provide additional money.

I just love this post! It is so true! What kind of a town do some people want to live in? We are not some desperate group of beggars who will do anything for a dime. Stop with the hysteria and desperation for $$. Pay taxes. Keep the town clean. If you don't like it, move to a mill town and be a renter. This town is a kick! What an identity crisis in action!

[Unregistered]

The place is overloaded w/ deer and deer ticks. The only place in town w/ an actual "browse line" from deer. With your camping you can have Lyme disease for dessert.

[Unregistered]

A deer hunt could thin the herd and raise money for the town. It is a no brainer!

[Unregistered]

Did South Walpole survive the concert on Saturday night with their new traffic plan?

[Unregistered]

I'm sure all of the new selectman's neighbors in South Walpole applaud the new plan, but all it did was transfer the headache to 27! I live and pay taxes in Walpole, why can't I traverse Walpole public roads during the time of a private activity in Foxboro?

[Unregistered]

no one is stopping you from traversing on public roads

[Unregistered]

I'm sure all of the new selectman's neighbors in South Walpole applaud the new plan, but all it did was transfer the headache to 27! I live and pay taxes in Walpole, why can't I traverse Walpole public roads during the time of a private activity in Foxboro?

The point of the plan is that South Walpole becomes grid lock during these event. You cannot traverse anywhere during these events. Anyone else want to chime in on the impact on 27? This was a DRAMATIC improvement to the parking lot in South Walpole during events. I don't understand why everyone thinks that S Walpole should have NO quality of life. People up by Adam Farm want NO ONE there. Beleive it or not, South Walpole pays taxes too and they get short changed at EVERY TURN! Com help fight the power plant. We love spending our lives fighting out opwn tax paid town government who is trying to poison us and devestate our major asset at every turn.

[Unregistered]

Enough is enough with this experiment. The sign at the corner of Old Post and the top of Common is going to do more to Snuff out downtown business during "event" days than any traffic headache is worth. My colleague coming from Southie to meet up with our buddy in Medfield in a local downtown Walpole establishment for pregame festivities has been basically told that he and his money are not welcome. Stick to the state roads! No outlet!
How many of my tax dollars are being used to keep business out of Walpole? Is there a plan to issue resident stickers for access to public roads? This misconceived plan has all the earmarks of Walpole's favorite hobby: NIMBYism!

[Unregistered]

please...what is there downtown to frequent on a saturday or sunday? banks...is there a rush of people from other towns racing to walpole to deposit money? most places are closed....your post is a thinly veiled attack on the selectmen

[Unregistered]

No, it's a direct criticism on the new selectman, who is pacifying his neighbors while causing local downtown businesses that cater to hungry and thirsty Patriot fans to miss out on that business opportunity while every neighboring town cashed in on the same. Nothing veiled here at all. We know who pushed this agenda on the town, and who it benefits.

[Unregistered]

Enough is enough with this experiment. The sign at the corner of Old Post and the top of Common is going to do more to Snuff out downtown business during "event" days than any traffic headache is worth. My colleague coming from Southie to meet up with our buddy in Medfield in a local downtown Walpole establishment for pregame festivities has been basically told that he and his money are not welcome. Stick to the state roads! No outlet!
How many of my tax dollars are being used to keep business out of Walpole? Is there a plan to issue resident stickers for access to public roads? This misconceived plan has all the earmarks of Walpole's favorite hobby: NIMBYism!

I pay taxes too! I want quality of life, character, and charm on my side of town too! South Walpole is sick of paying taxes and being discarded. The NIMBYs all live in North Walpole and East Walpole. The residents of South Walpole are not asking you to live in unacceptable conditions, with gridlock and outrageous industry. Shame on you for being the NIMBY asking that of us!

[Unregistered]

No, it's a direct criticism on the new selectman, who is pacifying his neighbors while causing local downtown businesses that cater to hungry and thirsty Patriot fans to miss out on that business opportunity while every neighboring town cashed in on the same. Nothing veiled here at all. We know who pushed this agenda on the town, and who it benefits.

Please! The "new selectman" did not put this on the agenda. What's your agenda? Discrediting someone at any cost? You must want a power plant. $$ for schools right?

[Unregistered]

Who asked for this traffic plan? One selectman isn't a majority. The other selectmen must have voted for it too. Whya re you just focused on one selectman?

[Unregistered]

I've been in the center on game days. There's hardly anyone there because they are at the game. I've been at the Big Y on game days and there's people buying food to tailgate. Some of the games are night games and there's no one in the center then. People who live in Walpole aren't in the center either. It's empty, empty, empty on the weekends especially in the summer. Do you live in the same town?

[Unregistered]

Your buddie from Medfield could go down Route 27 to the center. Your buddie from Southie could have gone Route One to Route 27 or Common Street to the center. They all could have gotten there so I don't know what you are talking about. Those roads aren't blocked and you know it.

[Unregistered]

Your buddie from Medfield could go down Route 27 to the center. Your buddie from Southie could have gone Route One to Route 27 or Common Street to the center. They all could have gotten there so I don't know what you are talking about. Those roads aren't blocked and you know it.


How about the Southie crowd getting off the 10 MPH 95 and taking a Norwood exit to 1A and getting to those 'favorite' restaurants? 1A on a game day (whatever type of game) is way, way less congested.

I would like to know if these restaurants are really losing the money this person states? Prove it! What restaurants are you talking about? Walpole center is really dead during a game because no one wants to deal with the headache of trying to reach it on game days.

I know because I live off Common Street and during a game the traffic you see is heading to Foxboro. The town parking lot is empty as are the street parking places.

[Unregistered]

poster #52, who do you think that you are kidding? Downtown is a ghost town on game and non game days. There's alway many parking spaces available during the day and there's only so many subs you can eat. Find some other reason to criticize the selectmen who all voted for the new traffic plan.

[Unregistered]

I was just reading about the traffice plan for stadium events and was curious as to how people that live on the blocked off streets get to their homes. Do you have to show a cop your driver's license to show them where you live?

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Could someone please let me know how much the police details cost the taxpayers for the stadium events - also are there police details being used to ensure that the traffic doesn't go anywhere except Route 1 - if so, I am sure that is costing us plenty.

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Could someone please let me know how much the police details cost the taxpayers for the stadium events - also are there police details being used to ensure that the traffic doesn't go anywhere except Route 1 - if so, I am sure that is costing us plenty.

I bet it doesn't cost anywhere near as much as Adam's Farm. Are you infering that those folk's quality of life is anymore important that the people of South Walpole?

Cliff Snuffer has supported both groups. Glad to see we have a selectman who understands the concept of servng the whole community. Not like some of our elected officials on various boards who are there to help out a few friends at the expense of entire sections of the town.

I appreciate Mr. Snuffer's integrity and ability to help areas of town that are not his own. It show's he is doing the right thing for the right reason. Wish we could say that of more elected and appointed officials.

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This isn't the proper topic forum to try and puff up Snuffer's reputation. His recent actions are being discussed at length on other threads. I think his actions speak for themselves.

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Yes they do. He is actually standing up for the people of this town.

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I had not even thought of the payment of the police details and where the money was coming from.

People from South Walpole, don't scream Adams Farm in defense. That was a town vote that passed. The majority of the people who went the polls voted to spend the money on Adams Farm.

There was no town election about this payment which I think will pan out like this:

6 Officers(At least) X 8 Hours (Probably a little conservative here since some of these officers will be coming of shift or going onto shift causing overtime) = 48 Man Hours Per Event.

48 Man Hours Per Even X 25 events a year (Number taken from a previous post) = 1200 Man Hours

1200 Man hours X 50 Dollars an hour (Again Conservative) = $60000 a year.

By 2016 that will be almost half a million dollars spent, again I think my numbers are conservative.

I am not saying that the traffic in South Walpole is not bad, there is no arguement. And people screaming that Adams Farm should not have playing fields on it because the deer need to roam are wrong too. But this is alot of money that Board of Selectmen (And not just Mr. Snuffer, all the Selectman) have appropriated.

I see no reason that the streets should not be open to ALL Walpole Residents if we are going to be spending this kind of money to close them.

Issue Resident Cards (With Names and Licence Plate Numbers on then) to any resident who wants one. Those with the cards that match either the named person on the card or people driving the car with that registration number should be allowed to travel on any road in Walpole them want, any day of the year.

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The stadium pays much if not all of the cost of the police details. We actually will need to spend less on details as people begin to realize that Walpole is not a cut through to the stadium and South Walpole is not a dumping ground on game days.

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You got a long way to go baby with police details before it approaches the price tag of Adams Farm. We spent about $7 million Adams Farm and that doesn't include the interest we all pay for the greater good. The details in south walpole are for the greater good too.
Whatever happened to the concept of the greater good?

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I can see closing pine street but water street? I do not understand since it is a very short street and it borders with Foxboro. I have driven down Water Street many times during game day when I used to be able to make a left turn at the set of lights to visit family on Sundays and it was not bad at all. What aggrevates me more is to be inconvienced during the stadium events to make traffic flow better. Basically I can no longer make a left turn anywhere but 27 which is quite out of my way. Going home from my relatives will now be an issue since I no longer can go on water street let alone one of the lanes was already taken to give the North bound side traffic relief. I am waiting for the day when someone from out of town not aware of the rules cuts across the cones, since I remember there were no ropes, and gets into an accident. I pay taxes like I paid for Adams farm so shouldn't I be able to use those roads? Adams Farm purchase was a Snuffer idea and it was one of his few bright ideas since it would have cost us more if there were houses on it. I live on the Norfolk/Walpole Line.

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If you really lived on the Norfolk Walpole Line you would know that you couldn't take a left onto Route One started and that you couldn't go across Route One onto North Street in Foxboro because that street is closed too BEFORE THE PLAN STARTED. You could just take a right onto Route One from Water Street.

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Ok this is just crazy, get over it.
For a couple of days a year you can't cross water street to get to Foxboro. BIG DEAL.
at least the people of south walpole can get around and live a normal life. with water street open south walpole has become like the south east expressway, all cloged up with traffic. People who live there can now get out of their driveway and go to the store or visit their families rather than being stuck in their homes.
If you need directions from the walpole/norfolk town line go down to 1A drive to the center of walpole and take a right onto common street. Stay on common street and cross over RT 1. You are now on your way to Foxboro. Not so hard is it??
The people of South Walpole pay taxes also and deserve to be able to get to and from their homes.

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I can see closing pine street but water street? I do not understand since it is a very short street and it borders with Foxboro. I have driven down Water Street many times during game day when I used to be able to make a left turn at the set of lights to visit family on Sundays and it was not bad at all. What aggrevates me more is to be inconvienced during the stadium events to make traffic flow better. Basically I can no longer make a left turn anywhere but 27 which is quite out of my way. Going home from my relatives will now be an issue since I no longer can go on water street let alone one of the lanes was already taken to give the North bound side traffic relief. I am waiting for the day when someone from out of town not aware of the rules cuts across the cones, since I remember there were no ropes, and gets into an accident. I pay taxes like I paid for Adams farm so shouldn't I be able to use those roads? Adams Farm purchase was a Snuffer idea and it was one of his few bright ideas since it would have cost us more if there were houses on it. I live on the Norfolk/Walpole Line.

South Walpole traffic plan or not, you have never been allowed to take a left turn onto Route 1. Do you even live in Walpole?? Or are you just that out of touch....

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I have lived in Walpole 8 years in the same location. When the old stadium was in existence we were able to make a left hand turn at Norfolk/Water Street prior to the 3 hour mark. I also have read in the Norfolk paper residents are upset with Walpole becuase they are now getting all the congestion on Everett Street. Now with the shops coming in I am seeing a large amount of traffic on route 1, never seen before. Will we be closing these streets during the holiday season due to Christmas Traffic???? My honest opionion you live near the Stadium, get over it and open up the streets. I hope the stadium is paying 100% of the police detail that is occuring during these events because I am against it.

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I have lived in Walpole 8 years in the same location. When the old stadium was in existence we were able to make a left hand turn at Norfolk/Water Street prior to the 3 hour mark. I also have read in the Norfolk paper residents are upset with Walpole becuase they are now getting all the congestion on Everett Street. Now with the shops coming in I am seeing a large amount of traffic on route 1, never seen before. Will we be closing these streets during the holiday season due to Christmas Traffic???? My honest opionion you live near the Stadium, get over it and open up the streets. I hope the stadium is paying 100% of the police detail that is occuring during these events because I am against it.

You must be one of those people who live in North Walpole and cannot stand the horror and inconvenience that a few soccor playing kids will cause. All that traffic on North Street will be such a bother... Maybe we can look into police details for you to. We will put someone on for the two minutes that 25 cars are headed in and out of Adams Farm.... who lives across the street from there anyways???

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I live in South Wapole and within 2 miles of the proposed Power Plant. I just want to be able to drive my car where I want to. I too hear the concerts at the staduim which keeps my daughter up all hours. But you know, when I moved in the noise was actually worse and I knew it was there.

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I live in South Walpole and I would have no issue with the town of Norflok closing Everett Street and turning it into a dead-end road.

I think that they have have an issue when they are trying to get to the hospital . . . . . or turning the snowplows around in someones driveway . . . . . . .

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I live in South Wapole and within 2 miles of the proposed Power Plant. I just want to be able to drive my car where I want to. I too hear the concerts at the staduim which keeps my daughter up all hours. But you know, when I moved in the noise was actually worse and I knew it was there.

I have lived here 15 years, and the noise is absoluteky getting worse. Springsten was rediculous! By the way, you should take note that Foxboro closes its roads as well. Beach street is completely unaccessible unless you live off of there. Foxboro residents who do not live there are excluded as well. So why is it so crazy that Walpole is finally catching up. People in those aresa should not be subjected to bumper to bumper traffic in residential neighbotrhoods. Foxboro residents won't put up with it, and they are getting all the money. The people in Soith Walpole deserve a break. Enjoy the "quiet"!

I will take Rte 27 to Sharon or Rte 115 to Foxboro. No big deal!

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you are all being conned when it comes to parking near stadium dont pay it for a few games cost will soon come down

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Not really sure I understand the traffic solution - it is posted that stadium traffic cannot go down Washington Street to Water Street to Route 1 on the way to a stadium event, but the same is not true after a game. The traffic on Washington Street is a steady stream. Not sure what the big deal is - it is only 7-8 times a season.

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Yeah residents of south walpole, get over it and let people drive wherever they want during stadium events. You're just lucky Fenway Park isn't in Foxboro. There are way more baseball games than football games.

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With one regular season game left at home what was the cost of closing Water Street? Was it money worth spending? Did the stadiuum pay for the details and signs all year? These are just a few questions to evaluate for next year.

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The last game that was played at Foxboro we were driving down water street at 12:40 game started at 4:15 and we were able to cross rt one just like we used too. I thought this street was closed permanently day of the game. Is it only 3 hours prior?