power plant

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1495: are you kidding me? Could you please answer me a question: if you have a retirement plan at work, can you collect off that plan and STILL collect your social security when you become eligible? Well, guess what - have worked for the town for 23 years. I have paid all my social security quarters as mandated, but I can't collect it! I also pay into Norfolk County Retirement and that is all I will be eligible for. Is that fair? I had to pay into a system just like everyone else, but the difference is, I can't collect what is due me. Also, I work a part time job like others to make ends meet and I STILL have to pay my social security portion even though I can't collect it. Right now my only benefit is a lower rate on my health insurance. If you want to fix it that I can collect my pension from the town and also collect my social security like most other people who collect a pension and also their social security, I would be willing to pay what you pay for insurance. This holds true for all municipal employees - fire, police, maintenance people, etc.

From Poster 1494, yes you can collect both. I'm sorry if I upset you but I would check with the SS office in Norwood. I don't know if you can collect full on both but checking with SS will problably verify you can collect something.

But you will still get medical at a reduced cost which those of us who only have 401k and SS can't. Medicare is expensive if you select a plan with prescriptions. This comes out of my 401k, which by the way dropped 50% and is no where near what your pension will provide since it's now a much lower amount.

Unlike what most people think, a lot of people like me didn't received a 401K until they were in their mid-thirties or fourties. What that means is I only had 20/25 years to accumulate what I have to live on in my retirement. Because the market dropped several times since the mid-1980's I've had to push out my retirement until 69 or 70. Are you going to wait that long?

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I recall many elected town officials and RTMs wringing their hands that if the town didn't work with CPV that they would go to the state, ask for a zoning exemption, and the town would have no say. Waa, Waa, Waa. They were totally wrong and they should all be sent packing in upcoming June election for not having been responsible enough to look into whether or not their theory was true before making the rumor so widespread.

Today's Enterprise reported that a company can only get a zoning exemption if the company proves that there is an electricity shortage. ISO New England who prepares the forecasts says that there is enough electricty until 2014. Here's the excerpt:

"Advanced Power had requested an exemption from the zoning review.

“The siting board gave us a big opening by allowing us to have say on the zoning,” Harrington said, adding, “that might preclude us from having to do anything else (legally.)”

A spokesman said Advanced Power is moving ahead with the project and doesn’t expect to be hindered by the zoning ruling.

The siting board shot down the exemption after several members said the company made a poor case for it.

A company must prove its project is needed to prevent electricity shortages to get such an exemption, members said. But electricity projections show that new power sources won’t be needed until 2014 at the earliest, siting board member Paul Hibbard said at Thursday’s hearing.

There are also several other power plants being proposed for the state, and nothing about the Brockton project makes it superior to those other plants, Hibbard said.

“I, for one, am un-persuaded that there really are any benefits unique to this facility,” Hibbard said, adding that “the petitioner has failed to demonstrate” why an exemption must be granted.

Other members agreed."

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If it weren't so sad, it would almost be funny. Last year the Transcript reported that CPV said that the power plant would increase property values but this year the Transcript reported that Walpole took the biggest hit in real estate prices and volume of sales. It seems to me that just the threat of a power plant had an effect on the Walpole real estate market.

Daily Transcript February 17, 2008


WALPOLE —
Competitive Power Ventures claims a power plant won't hurt local property values. In fact, the company, which is proposing a 580-megwatt gas-fired plant for Industrial Road, believes such a facility could actually increase values.

But that is debatable, say property experts across the state and region. And at least one Walpole real estate agent disagrees entirely with Competitive Power's claims.

"I think it definitely will affect sales price for homes depending on where (they are) in town," said Paula Verderber of Verderber Real Estate in Walpole.

Daily Transcript January 28, 2009


Among Transcript towns, home prices in Walpole took the biggest hit in 2008: there they were down 11 percent, to $378,300. Prices fell 8.6 percent in Westwood to $512,000, 4 percent in Norwood to $357,750, and just 0.6 percent in Dedham to $360,500.

The final sales numbers for 2008 confirmed what a slow year it was, as just over 40,000 single-family homes were sold in Massachusetts, an 11.5 percent decline.
December 2008 was, however, a bright spot in comparison to December of 2007, the Warren Group said. Home sales were up 4.7 percent - from 2,745 to 2,874 - this December in comparison to the same month in 2007.

For the year, sales were off 30 percent in Walpole, 21.6 percent in Westwood, 8.1 percent in Norwood, and 3.3 percent in Dedham.

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The executive board of Walpole could have told voters that a power plant in excess of 100 megawatts had to apply with the state siting board. The executive board could have told voters that a power plant company can apply for an exemption from local zoning but that the company has to prove public convenience and necessity. The Brockton power plant company filed for a zoning exemption but could not prove necessity and the siting board denied the company's request for an exemption from local zoning.

I would wager that CPV and their lawyers knew that a zoning exemption is not easily granted.

The executive board said nothing. The impression lingered that CPV could summarily bypass the town and go directly to the state. An impression that led many to believe that Walpole would be left out of the negotiation loop and that there was no way to stop the plant.

How convenient for those who wanted a power plant to fund certain projects and town budgets and how inconvenient for homeowners whose property values suffered throughout town during the year that CPV tried to be our neighbor.

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The executive board of Walpole could have told voters that a power plant in excess of 100 megawatts had to apply with the state siting board. The executive board could have told voters that a power plant company can apply for an exemption from local zoning but that the company has to prove public convenience and necessity. The Brockton power plant company filed for a zoning exemption but could not prove necessity and the siting board denied the company's request for an exemption from local zoning.

I would wager that CPV and their lawyers knew that a zoning exemption is not easily granted.

The executive board said nothing. The impression lingered that CPV could summarily bypass the town and go directly to the state. An impression that led many to believe that Walpole would be left out of the negotiation loop and that there was no way to stop the plant.

How convenient for those who wanted a power plant to fund certain projects and town budgets and how inconvenient for homeowners whose property values suffered throughout town during the year that CPV tried to be our neighbor.

Hello pitchforker...will you give it a break please??

Read the newspapers. watch television. Learn about the epic mess that has hit our country, courtesy of bankers, stock brokers, real estate agents and yes, greedy citizens who wanted more and more.

Walpole home prices did not nosedive like they did in California, Arizona and Florida. Walpole home prices will ALWAYS be rather strong due to our Commuter rail, our freight rail, and our proximity to Boston, Providence and the Mass Bay and South Coast shorelines. The town has over 20 square miles of land, much of it still open space, and an unusual amount of that land is still owned by the town. I would say Walpole has done pretty well.

Stop trying to pin the house price declines on the power plant. its totally absurd and only points out your obsession with CPV and trying to run the town your way!

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Another pitchforker here. Remember all those threats from CPV that they would just go to the state? Those of us who had to do our own research said, "Let them go." If it had been so easy to get state approval, they would have done so in a heartbeat. I applaud Brockton officials for fighting their power plant. Walpole officials should have done the same.I think Brockton took courage from our battle. As for 1505, yes, real estate prices in general took a hit. However, CPV arrived here several years ago when the market was very strong. The mere threat of a power plant deterred many from buying in Walpole. That is the real reason our sales are down in comparison to other towns. Obsessed with CPV? Maybe but that's because I learned that people will sell their souls and sell out their neighbors for the cheap promise of a few bucks. What I did learn is that "the little people" without self-interest can topple a corporation's plans (with a little help from the financial crisis!). Let's just say I brandish my pitchfork proudly.

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Hello pitchforker...will you give it a break please??

Read the newspapers. watch television. Learn about the epic mess that has hit our country, courtesy of bankers, stock brokers, real estate agents and yes, greedy citizens who wanted more and more.

Walpole home prices did not nosedive like they did in California, Arizona and Florida. Walpole home prices will ALWAYS be rather strong due to our Commuter rail, our freight rail, and our proximity to Boston, Providence and the Mass Bay and South Coast shorelines. The town has over 20 square miles of land, much of it still open space, and an unusual amount of that land is still owned by the town. I would say Walpole has done pretty well.

Stop trying to pin the house price declines on the power plant. its totally absurd and only points out your obsession with CPV and trying to run the town your way!

I disagree with you. Did you read the article? Walpole took a far bigger decline in price and volume than the surrounding towns. I have no doubt it was the power plant, and I appreciate the poster who brought the article to my attention. You on the other hand sound like you are still choking down some sour grapes. You must have been one of the vocal minority who tried to claim the benefit of that nasty project. Are you willing to pay everyone back for the extra loss in value that you brought all of us? Declining value leads to increased tax rate. You are wrking against yourself and you don't even know it...

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I think many of us believe that the mere threat of an ugly power plant coming to our town was responsible for the loss of sales.
Many would have preferred that this type of businesses come into town undetected.
That way the realtor can take you the long way around to show you the property and hope you don’t going venturing around, only to discover the disgusting uses in this town.
Then when you realize what is about to become your neighbor, it will be your fault for moving there!
I know, this happened to me.

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I think many of us believe that the mere threat of an ugly power plant coming to our town was responsible for the loss of sales.
Many would have preferred that this type of businesses come into town undetected.
That way the realtor can take you the long way around to show you the property and hope you don’t going venturing around, only to discover the disgusting uses in this town.
Then when you realize what is about to become your neighbor, it will be your fault for moving there!
I know, this happened to me.

I suppose we should change our zoning laws to accomodate the perceived drop in your home price because you didn't have the foresight to imagine what may crop up in that industrial area near your home?


did anyone force you to buy that place?

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#1509, your contemptuous tone aside, the area I was referring too was NOT visible from the road.
It is an overgrown woodsy area that has the remains of a CSX railroad.
It was targeting for a regional trash transfer station a few years ago.
It will most likely be tageted again.
By the way, you tone is nasty..

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you don't have to see trash, to smell trash... but it begs the question why do you want the worst for a town instead of the best? why do we always want want no one else wants - human waste, things that explode, garbage, and smokestacks? we look ridiculous to surrounding towns who read the local newspaper and can't imagine why the town has set the bar so so low...have some pride will you?

I can see what's going on. It's become a sport just to say "we the old guard" are going to win one over other residents who want better for the town. Even if winning means that the town loses by get bottom of the barrel proposals. it's a damn shame.

These proposals harm the town and the personal investment that people have in their homes. But do any of you really care? You don't live near any of the sites. That's what it is really all about.

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Reading these posts, I see the same old thinking that these ugly land uses only affect an area that some of you think is invisible. Take one minute to look at what happened to real estate values (down 11%) and sales volume (down 30%). Walpole was hardest hit.

The values and volume dropped town wide and not just on the street where these disgusting uses would go. Town Wide.

When property values drop, the town gets less tax revenue. Your drive to site anything that comes along defeats your purpose of lowering taxes. Less tax revenue means less money for schools. Lower home prices change the socioeconomics of the town and residents will be less able to support overrides. It is a vicious circle.

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1509, that is really a rude comment. The persons who own the industrial land live in Walpole. Wouldn't it be nice if the landowners had a little more regard for the town and its residents by not entering into purchase and sales agreement with anything under the sun? There comes a point when a business has to exercise some social responsibility. We get 40Bs and noxious land uses because the LOCAL landowners bring them here. Zoning has been a way for town officials to divert the attention from the real reason. There's lots of uses in the zoning bylaw. The owner doesn't have to bring in the worst of the worst. And 40Bs can go on any type property regardless of zoning. If you are just sick and tired of the past twenty years of one bad land use after the other, then do something about it this June.
Vote out those town officials who cannot be impartial because they are connected to landowners either through family or businss relationships. Their personal loyalties override their public responsibility.

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#1509, your contemptuous tone aside, the area I was referring too was NOT visible from the road.
It is an overgrown woodsy area that has the remains of a CSX railroad.
It was targeting for a regional trash transfer station a few years ago.
It will most likely be tageted again.
By the way, you tone is nasty..

nasty? I suppose cliff snuffers tone at the recent selectmens meeting was music to your ears?

:)

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It's very unfortunate that the voters of Walpole continue to allow landowners and developers to run the town. You get what you vote! Walpole hasn't pulled out of the 19th century because those in power are self-serving individuals. In other words if you played ball or graduated from Walpole High he is your best friend and you must bend the zoning to take care of your long time friends. When will the voters see the light and bring in someone that is impartial and doesn't have a hidden agenda. History repeats itself and we see this daily in local government. Only a stupid person would continue to do the same thing and expect a different result.
My suggestion is for you to attend the Public Forum on Tuesday, Feb. 10 @ 7 pm in the Auditorium in the Johnson Middle School. Then you will hear the prosed zoning changes.

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I suppose we should change our zoning laws to accomodate the perceived drop in your home price because you didn't have the foresight to imagine what may crop up in that industrial area near your home?


did anyone force you to buy that place?

You are an angry and rude individual. You are the true NIMBY type. OK in soneone else's backyard, but not your own. Your hostile tone, and holier than thou attitude assure me that you are one of the self appointed self chosen few who think you should call the shots that work for you and your little club of friends. You will destroy the town we all call home to take care of your little agenda.

You seem to be speaking specifically to someone. What makes you think that the someone who posted this lives near the "industrial area"? What do you mean by "that place"? Who are you talking to??? You clearly have it out for someone and some area. Go to the gym and work out your hostilities. It is a better way to handle your problems and stress, and there are many positive outcomes to your personal health. You could probably use it.

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NO, I am SURE you are nasty.
I don't know what Mr. Snuffer has to do with your insulting ways.
You obviously have an axe to grind.
BTW, I voted or Mr. Snuffer as I am tired of the good ol' boy network.
Me thinks you are part of it!

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To the poster that said that Cliff's voice is music to the ears. I think so too. I would like to hear him sing You ain't nothing but a Hound Dog, Crying all the time (to you)

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It's very unfortunate that the voters of Walpole continue to allow landowners and developers to run the town. You get what you vote! Walpole hasn't pulled out of the 19th century because those in power are self-serving individuals. In other words if you played ball or graduated from Walpole High he is your best friend and you must bend the zoning to take care of your long time friends. When will the voters see the light and bring in someone that is impartial and doesn't have a hidden agenda. History repeats itself and we see this daily in local government. Only a stupid person would continue to do the same thing and expect a different result.
My suggestion is for you to attend the Public Forum on Tuesday, Feb. 10 @ 7 pm in the Auditorium in the Johnson Middle School. Then you will hear the prosed zoning changes.

It's the same people who don't want any development who are preventing progress. And everyone is a LAND OWNER. This bylaw will mix the business walpole has and encourage more that is good and clean. Let the RTMs do their job at town meeting without your grandstanding!

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"It's the same people who don't want any development who are preventing progress. And everyone is a LAND OWNER. This bylaw will mix the business walpole has and encourage more that is good and clean. Let the RTMs do their job at town meeting without your grandstanding".

THE UPDATED ZONING INCLUDES; regional trash transfer, not a local transfer station.
Level 2 Bio-Tech, which is a level that is dangerous to animals, humans and the environment and plywood manufacturing just to name a few. It's interesting that these were not allowed under the previous zoning. Also there is not a limit on the size of buildings that are allowed. Nothing has been addressed concerning the impact of light manufacturing and industrial land that abutts resedential neighborhoods. These neighborhoods preceded the commercial development areas. There are many things in the zoning re-write that still need quite a bit of attention and major improvemnt.
Please come tonight's re-scheduled rewrite committee meeting at 7:30 in Room 112.

(could not confirm that meeting date -- tg)

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1519- Would those be the same RTMs that had secret meetings with CPV? And so many of them have vested interests. Right, I'll really trust them. Can't wait for the next elections! Times have changed, Walpole.

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"It's the same people who don't want any development who are preventing progress. And everyone is a LAND OWNER. This bylaw will mix the business walpole has and encourage more that is good and clean. Let the RTMs do their job at town meeting without your grandstanding".

THE UPDATED ZONING INCLUDES; regional trash transfer, not a local transfer station.
Level 2 Bio-Tech, which is a level that is dangerous to animals, humans and the environment and plywood manufacturing just to name a few. It's interesting that these were not allowed under the previous zoning. Also there is not a limit on the size of buildings that are allowed. Nothing has been addressed concerning the impact of light manufacturing and industrial land that abutts resedential neighborhoods. These neighborhoods preceded the commercial development areas. There are many things in the zoning re-write that still need quite a bit of attention and major improvemnt.
Please come tonight's re-scheduled rewrite committee meeting at 7:30 in Room 112.

(could not confirm that meeting date -- tg)

Yes, it looks like we've gone from "any lawful use" to "EVERY lawful use." The proposed zoning bylaw is a complete joke. The dysfunctional rewrite committee should be disbanded and replaced by a group who do not have vested interests in the outcome.

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The zoning rewrite will go to the Town Meeting in May. The elections are in June.Unless this insanity is stopped now you will bee too late to keep the CPV types from getting even.

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I just saw the article linked from the front page of this site about the Brockton power plant. For the first time ever, the state siting board did not grant exemptions from the authority of the local zoning board. This means that the power plant cannot be built without the approval of the city.

http://www.mass.gov/?pageID=eoeeapressrelease&L=1&L0=Home&sid=Eoeea&b=pressrelease&f=090731_pr_brocton_power&csid=Eoeea

Congratulations to our neighbors in Brockton! Your air is our air, and we will all breathe easier knowing that you are winning your fight against this project.

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the power plant is over
its gone
Now is the time to support the bylaw and make sure we put what walpole does want there

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Take a look at the draft. You can click onto it from the zoning story on the front page of Walpole News. It would be funny if it wasn't true. There's soap, plastic, rubber, leather manufacturing. You name it, we got it. What a wonderful town we will live in.

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the power plant is over
its gone
Now is the time to support the bylaw and make sure we put what walpole does want there

Do you mean "support the bylaw" as it currently appears on the link provided by Tom?? Seriously... have you looked at it? ...Or do you mean "get involved in the process" so we stop this never ending cycle of bad business?

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Now where was this commercial when we needed it? Milton Bradley didn't fall for the power plant is like your gas stove party line. Or how about this is not your grandfather's power plant? Or it won't affect your property values?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTG-x7R4J7s

[Brown Bear]

This is one mistake that Walpole will regret in the coming years. Siting a power plant here made a lot of sense.
1) we all use electricity
2) location would have been on industrial land
3) It would be a manufacturing plant that makes electricity. Raw materials would come in silently underground. The proposed location was right near the gas line. The finished goods (electricity) would be shipped out silently (slight hum) on the nearby high-tension wires. The waste byproducts, water vapor and carbon dioxide, are good for trees.
4) Tax base would have done nicely, thank you.

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Still stirring the pot on that big old gas stove, Brown Bear? So much wishful thinking.

http://www.dailynewstribune.com/news/state/x655689620/Developer-Falling-power-demand-may-mean-trouble-for-Brockton-power-plant

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You're too funny!

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This is one mistake that Walpole will regret in the coming years. Siting a power plant here made a lot of sense.
1) we all use electricity
2) location would have been on industrial land
3) It would be a manufacturing plant that makes electricity. Raw materials would come in silently underground. The proposed location was right near the gas line. The finished goods (electricity) would be shipped out silently (slight hum) on the nearby high-tension wires. The waste byproducts, water vapor and carbon dioxide, are good for trees.
4) Tax base would have done nicely, thank you.

Silly boy... we all make trash, eat bacon, drink beer, and flush our toilets. Bring on the septic, brewery, pig farm, and landfill. Great logic... you silly old bear.

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ten---hut pitchforker patrol:

I do believe a large diameter gas pipeline passes through 02081.

Please look into it and report back by 2100 Hrs tomorrow.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/09/10/california.fire/index.html?hpt=T2

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ten---hut pitchforker patrol:

I do believe a large diameter gas pipeline passes through 02081.

Please look into it and report back by 2100 Hrs tomorrow.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/09/10/california.fire/index.html?hpt=T2

We cannot undo the bad mistakes of the past, but we can be more conscientious going forward. Thank goodness for those "pitchforkers" you are going out of your way to ridicule. Without them, you would be living with a sludge treatment center, a trash transfer station, a million gallon propane farm, a power pkant, and a level 3 Biolab. Funny, you sit and ridicule those who stopped such obviously unsightly, dangerous and destructive businesses from siting in our town.

I guess you would love to be living with all those in your back yard right now. It tells me everything I need to know. I think your funny. Sad and funny. You clearly did not major in community building. You probably did not major in much of anything. The new library will be a great resource for you.... I am certain that is something on your list to ridicule as well.

Remember to thank those pitchforkers someday when you sell your house.

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We cannot undo the bad mistakes of the past, but we can be more conscientious going forward. Thank goodness for those "pitchforkers" you are going out of your way to ridicule. Without them, you would be living with a sludge treatment center, a trash transfer station, a million gallon propane farm, a power pkant, and a level 3 Biolab. Funny, you sit and ridicule those who stopped such obviously unsightly, dangerous and destructive businesses from siting in our town.

I guess you would love to be living with all those in your back yard right now. It tells me everything I need to know. I think your funny. Sad and funny. You clearly did not major in community building. You probably did not major in much of anything. The new library will be a great resource for you.... I am certain that is something on your list to ridicule as well.

Remember to thank those pitchforkers someday when you sell your house.

I agree. Now can you get to work closing down that gas pipeline please? I am scared witless.

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You are witless. In fact you are half as witty as I am, thereby making you a halfwit. I am very proud to be one of your hated pitch forkers that has protected this town from itself. My pitch fork is being sharpened to fight off the next bad idea that comes to town. In the other hand I hold a wreath of laurel to welcome any good idea that comes our way. It's very easy for you to be anonymous and and spew your written venom at the people who really do care about the health and well being of this community. Maybe you could take your negative energy and turn it around and do something useful, perhaps volunteer to be on a committee to find good and clean uses for land and businesses in our town. Maybe you should realize that your tax dollars go to the good of the community in which you live and hold dear. Your tax dollars are your civic duty to fund education for the next generation as well as to build a new library, that I would guess that you don't want. This pitch forker thng is really tiring and maybe you could move on and share some positve thoughts instead of venomous attacks on a group of people that are dedicated to the betterment of this community. You may ask who the heck are you and I'll sign this Fordtubby and Dog Rock.

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You are witless. In fact you are half as witty as I am, thereby making you a halfwit. I am very proud to be one of your hated pitch forkers that has protected this town from itself. My pitch fork is being sharpened to fight off the next bad idea that comes to town. In the other hand I hold a wreath of laurel to welcome any good idea that comes our way. It's very easy for you to be anonymous and and spew your written venom at the people who really do care about the health and well being of this community. Maybe you could take your negative energy and turn it around and do something useful, perhaps volunteer to be on a committee to find good and clean uses for land and businesses in our town. Maybe you should realize that your tax dollars go to the good of the community in which you live and hold dear. Your tax dollars are your civic duty to fund education for the next generation as well as to build a new library, that I would guess that you don't want. This pitch forker thng is really tiring and maybe you could move on and share some positve thoughts instead of venomous attacks on a group of people that are dedicated to the betterment of this community. You may ask who the heck are you and I'll sign this Fordtubby and Dog Rock.

again, thanks for saving us from ourselves. We couldn't have done it without you.

member, SSHA

SmokeStackHuggersAnonymous

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again, thanks for saving us from ourselves. We couldn't have done it without you.

member, SSHA

SmokeStackHuggersAnonymous

To this poster the old saying comes to mind. "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt."

In this case your typing removes all doubt.

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ten---hut pitchforker patrol:

I do believe a large diameter gas pipeline passes through 02081.

Please look into it and report back by 2100 Hrs tomorrow.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/09/10/california.fire/index.html?hpt=T2

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20100913/US.Pipeline.Explosion/

From the above article:

"SAN BRUNO, Calif. — An ominous theme has emerged from the wreckage of a deadly pipeline explosion in California: There are thousands of pipes just like it nationwide.

Utilities have been under pressure for years to better inspect and replace aging gas pipes — many of them laid years before the suburbs expanded over them and now at risk of leaking or erupting.

But the effort has fallen short. Critics say the regulatory system is ripe for problems because the government largely leaves it up to the companies to do inspections, and utilities are reluctant to spend the money necessary to properly fix and replace decrepit pipelines."

I was suprised to read this article today. Seems like our old name caller has accidently openned another can of worms. Uncle Sam can clearly not manage much these days,... which is why every time some Walpole official claims that something is "federally regulated", I want to laugh out loud! And that is supposed to be a ringing endorsement of trust:) Once again the old guard tries to make all us tax payers look like the problem, and what happens,.. the old guard has egg on their face once again, and more problems than they started with.

When will they learn....

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http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2012/04/25/enlarged_natural_gas_pipe_proposed_for_ne/?page=1

get ready walpole. we will be having an enlarged gas pipline project coming through. Guaranteed.

Question for the Pitchforkers: Can you handle this load? (a casino AND a gas pipline?).

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http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2012/04/25/enlarged_natural_gas_pipe_proposed_for_ne/?page=1

get ready walpole. we will be having an enlarged gas pipline project coming through. Guaranteed.

Question for the Pitchforkers: Can you handle this load? (a casino AND a gas pipline?).

Depends , would the casino be heated by the gas pipeline ? Nogasino